Talk:FreeMind 0.9.0: The New Features

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I'm finding most of the page rather unhelpful. The documentation jumps straight into explaining which buttons to press, without really explaining or even hinting why would I want to do that in the first place.

It would be a good idea to describe what the new features mean in practice, what can you do with them, what's the value for end users? Basically explaining why would I care? As I've vaguely understood, attributes are one of the main new features in 0.9.0 so you'll probably want to describe the feature in a way that'll make users understand it and want it, passionately. Filter and WYSIWYG editor are similar, it's unclear what they mean in practire, how will it look and affect the end user. (Though the editor is easier to guess, but guessing shouldn't be necessary.)

Scripting_via_Groovy and TaskJuggler_Integration are doing a little bit better here.

--Tko 05:02, 1 Jan 2007 (PST)

Hi Tko, with respect to your question on attributes: As an example consider you that you had tasks associated with nodes. You may want to add attributes like: 'assigned to', which would have a name as a value, 'status', lets say with a value 'in progress', 'resource': 'needs 10 Mio.USD', etc..

--Uli 02:48, 13 Feb 2007 (PST)

Bad config for display

The wiki page "The New Features" is extremely painful to read, if one wants to use large characters for comfortable reading : it has a fixed number of characters per line, so one has to unceasingly move lines from left to right to read them, for each line. I find it is a bad idea to deprive users of one of the main advantages of html : automatic adaptation of line width to window width. I assume there might be some reason, so I did not change the config, but I would appreciate if the author of this strange config could make it more friendly for all readers and switch back to the one used in Wikipedia (since this wiki uses Mediawiki), or explain why there are mandatory reasons not to do so (if any) ;-) Thanks a lot.

Documentation is missing

I have been waiting for scripting in Freemind for a long, long time. I love the program, but would like to automate some repetitive tasks. However, I am a little disappointed with scripting in beta 9. The reasons are as following:
1. The documentation is very scant. At least a short list of object classes and methods would be helpful. I really don't want to dig into the source code to write a simple script and if you want people to really beta test this feature, you should provide more than a few examples on the website.
2. The script editor is virtually non-existent.
3. Putting scripts as attributes is confusing and non-intuitive, and it doesn't allow you to view the whole script without the tedious copy and paste to notepad or other editors.
4. Maybe I am missing something, but it seems like there is no way to execute a single script associated with one node without launching all the scripts on the map (Alt-F8).
5. Again, maybe I don't know about something, but there doesn't seem to be a way to define your classes and general methods for the whole map instead of individual nodes.
6. VBA-like model would be nice, where you can associate scripts with certain events (such as changing an attribute of a specific node, or unfolding a branch), but again it would require global code for the whole map instead of individual nodes.
As for attributes, the Attribute editor is very unintuitive and it takes forever to figure out exactly what's going on and why one may want to use specific features. Also the View menu is missing a dot by any of the options regarding attributes in the beginning, so you don't know what view you are currently at.
There should also be an indication of what mode is currently active in the Format menu (plain text or formatted text). Here, also you should probably consider making notes editor plain text if the general setting is for plain text editing.
Hope this helps.
Sincerely,
Beta tester

Documentation for Notes is missing

I have been waiting for a notes capability in Freemind for a long time. I like the program, but it seems limited in the way I wanted to use it. I wanted to use it as a glorified outliner where each node represents the header of an item in the outline and the level of the node equates to the level of the outline header. Once I had the outline, I wanted to flesh it out into a full paper. In the past, the way I would've had to do that was add paragraphs directly to the pertinent node or as a child node of that node, but that ruined the ability to look at the whole outline as just headers. With notes, I can add information to a node and not have it change the view of the outline. There are many problems, though.

  1. There is no obvious way to output the full document in a paper form (ie. like something you would get from Microsoft Word).
  2. There are no options for setting how you want to display the notes (ie. as a popup or as an inline).
  3. There is no obvious way to output the mindmap as a basic (ASCII?) text outline.

Is there a big example of how Freemind has been used by others? It would be great to see full examples of Freemind used for the following purposes:

  • Development of a paper for publication.
  • Development of a web-page documenting something interesting.
  • An ASCII text outline that can be output to printer.

-- DavidMasterson, 5/26/07